just thought some ppl need to read this . . . . .i got this off of the message board on rihannadaily.com
"A NUETRAL STANDPOINT ON RIHANNA AND CHRIS
So I'm making this post, and you all can take it how you want it, but I find some of the stuff I've seen recently on this site downright disgusting. I am a fan of both Chris Brown and Rihanna. He is a talented dancer and singer and businessman. She is a talented full package artist with great modern material and stunning beauty. Together or apart they are both two of the biggest artists in the world right now, and deservedly so.
However, I took the time to read most of these threads, and I must admit, the majority of it is borderline psychotic, and I seriously wonder about the mental state of some of you. We all know what happened last night and that there was an altercation between Chris and Rihanna. But the response from fans is frightening. NOBODY knows the complete details, none of you were there, nobody was involved, and outside of a basic outline of events from official sources nothing else is confirmed. But already there is hate and judgment.
In their entire time together these two have had nothing but love for each other. They have been around each other constantly, they have hugged, kissed, made love, they have found love in each other for over TWO YEARS NOW. But the first time the s@?$? hits the fan in their relationship, you all assume Chris is a monster, and Rihanna is a poor victim. Welcome to reality kids. Chris is not a monster, and Rihanna is not innocent either nor perfect. They both have the capability to be wrong. They both have the capability to mess up a situation and mess up a relationship. Both of them have a history of violence. Rihanna's father was a terrible drunk who abused her mother, they had terrible arguments and violence in the home, and seperated MANY times. Chris' father was a drunk who abused his mother and him and his sister, and left their family when they were young. BOTH of them come from broken home families where violence between the couple was normal. As they get older, without psychological help, what they saw as children could manifest in them. Rihanna has admitted she has a horrid temper, even admitting to slamming her brother in the face with a bottle. Could it be, that they BOTH went too far, could it be that she provoked a response, and that he made a mistake. I'm not excusing, but I am saying, know your facts, come back to reality, and realize that they are HUMAN. Neither one of them is innocent, and neither one of them is from a place where domestic violence is unusual. They both have witnessed domestic violence all their life, and from a purely psychological standpoint that model for a relationship might still be there. This is not the first time these two have had a huge argument, nor the first time it's gotten physical. It's just the first time Chris has hit her back.
And yes it is wrong for a man to hit a woman, from a purely moralistic aspect. But there are a great deal of women who believe that they can attack men and that there will be no repurcussion. Many women know that most men are raised to never hit a woman and they abuse that. They attack a man wildly, believing he will never hit them back. Sometimes a person can be pushed beyond their breaking point and do something in the head of the moment that they would never do. Did it ever occur to you that Chris could have been PROVOKED to respond. Pictures of him show a slightly bruised eye. You have to understand that Rihanna is tiny in comparison to him. He's huge. And in reflex he might have struck back. A mere weak strike from him would cause damage to her because she's so small. It could have been a reflex move. But instead, you all twist it as if he straight beat her down in the streets. Which he did not. Hospital reports as well as OFFICIAL reports say that there was a bruise on her face, but NO SERIOUS INJURY. It's not as if he brutally attacked her. Am I defending what he did, ABSOLUTELY NOT. I don't think what he did was right. A MAN SHOULD NEVER HIT A WOMAN....IN A PERFECT, IDEAL, UTOPIC WORLD. But welcome back to EARTH. Welcome to REALITY. In the heat of the moment, when provoked we all can do things we don't think about. And they both have the potential to ruin their relationship. Rihanna fans have been hating Chris for years because he pulled the woman they were so obsessed with. Chris fans have hated Rihanna because she pulled the man they were so obsessed with. You fans have EVERYTHING to say about Rihanna and Chris and who they should be with and who they should love, but you are NOT Rihanna, you are NOT Chris, and you are in NO position to determine who they find love in. The fact is they love each other, they chose each other, and you need to get over it, and stop creating these false concepts on both sides. Welcome to reality kids. People fight, people argue, people have beef, and sometimes it turns physical. Am I defending what CHris did? Absolutely not. But I am saying he is not a monster just because he did something wrong in a moment of anger. People make mistakes, and sometimes their big mistakes. That doesn't make them a monster, or evil. That makes them HUMAN.
I saw in one thread where a member accused Chris' fans of immaturity? You all accuse Chris' fans of immaturity, yet you have death threats in your signature. You make threads about wanting to KILL HIM. You wish him death? Where exatly is the maturity in that? Where is the maturity in wishing death to a man you've NEVER MET personally, over what he did to a woman you've NEVER MET personally. I hate to bust some of your bubbles but lets make this clear: You do NOT know Rihanna. You are NOT related to Rihanna. Rihanna does not know you. She does not care about you. At the end of the day she is an artist who makes music, and you are her fans. You have no connection to her. And after the purchase is made, she moves on. She is not connected to you, nor tied to you. And sitting on her dancer's myspace pages collecting pictures and information does NOT make you an insider, nor does it make you close to her. You claim to love her, but I warn there is a FINE line between LOVE and OBSESSION...and some of you are just that. Some of you seem to worship this woman as a God, and it's downright frightening. Maybe you need to take some time, log off, and pull yourself out of this cloud of obsession, because truly, you sound psychotic. The ONLY man in the world who should be wanting to fight Chris right now is her family. If you ain't related, calm down. It is imperative not to make a judgment on this until you know what has happened. You blame Chris, you wish his death, but the fact is NOBODY knows what caused the situation that occured that night, except the two people who were in that car: Robyn Fenty and Christopher Brown. If you are not one of them, you have nothing to say. Why would you want to kill somebody or judge somebody based on something you know nothing about. We all make mistakes, and we all screw up. It's their relationship, their love, their story, their struggle, their s@?$?. Stop judging it, and wait until you have FACT, not fiction.
Finally, please stop pushing all these lies and rumors. I go into these threads and I see either nothing but lies from blogsites, or lies that some of you are creating for WHATEVER reason. Please stop the lies. There was no traffic jam, there was no broken jaw, there was no other woman, there was no limo. According to the official police report:
1. They left the party that night in the grey car, around 12
2. Shortly after as they were driving they got into an argument, the argument got heated she got out of the vehicle
3. They argued in the streets, it got physical. He left, she called police.
4. She went to the hospital this afternoon and filed a report, they both pulled out, he turned himself in
5. He is out on bond, charged with felony threat, and awaiting a court date
THESE ARE THE ONLY OFFICIAL FACTS based on the OFFICIA LAPD PRESS RELEASE and based on eyewitness accounts. All that other s@?$? is false. And if you call yourself a "FAN" you might want to stop pushing these lies. Because the more you push lies, the more you confuse other fans who go to other sites, type those same lies, and they spread like wildfire.
I am not defending what Chris did. He was wrong. But am I saying, that NOBODY knows what happened that night except the people involved. And all this kill Chris, die Chris, Chris is evil, Rihanna is innocent s@?$? should stop until the facts are clear. Because nobody is innocent. Chris is not a violent person by his nature. Anyone who knows him knows that. There was PROVOCATION ON BOTH SIDES, and NEITHER ONE OF THEM IS INNOCENT. Is he more in the wrong, yes. Because he allowed the provocation to cause him to break one of the biggest rules between men and woman. But this is NOT Ike and Tina. He did not beat her down in the streets.She had small bruise on her face that she got treated for at Cedar Sinai. She is well and unharmed.
You all spoke of maturity. I think real maturity on your part as fans would be for you to stop all this kill Chris foolishness, stop spreading these BLOG LIES, stop all this judgmental behavior and hatred, and wait for the facts, realizing that both of them are only human and the both make mistakes. Last night was a mistake, but it shouldn't result in the hatred, judgment, and lies I see on this site here.
REAL MATURITY would be for you all to act like adults and intelligent teens, wait for the facts, stop casting judgment, realize that we're all human, realize we all make mistakes, realize that you are never going to be able to kill Chris Brown, realize that wanting to kill him for attacking her is pure psychosis, realize that she is not perfect either and that she provoked the situation, realize they both f$#?@$ed up, and that what happened with them should stay between Chris and Rihanna and a court of law, until the situation is resolved. No
I'm sure some of the psycho fans are going to come in here and come up with all sorts of reasons why I'm wrong, Chris Brown is the devil, Rihanna is an innocent victim, Chris should be killed and beaten, they were wrong for each other all along, you saw it coming, blah blah blah. But I really don't care. All I can say is I invite you to take the time to listen to the stuff you're saying first, and compare it common sense.
Take it how you want to take it. "
2.10.2009
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